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The Symbolism of the NM Fire
- by Margaret Moulton, a former resident of Taos.


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Terry Wolff attended the Lama Meeting last night (5/9) at the Red River Fish Hatchery.
Here's his Report

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te: Thu, 30 May 1996 11:43:36 -0600 (CST)
From: P. Hanna 
To: feedback@laplaza.taos.nm.us
Subject: Hondo/Lama fire

A number of expatriate Taosenos, myself included, would like to know
how to help our friends who have lost houses/property in the fire.  I
have Rollo Silver's address but not Steve Hinton's.  Heard there was
a fund at the bank in Taos, but some of us would like to contribute
more directly.  Any info?
Thanks
Pam Hanna
phanna@law.vanderbilt.edu


Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 18:07:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: TKANSAS@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: Resent mail....

I would like to make a contribution to help fire victims at Lama
Foundation.  Can you tell me where to make contact?

Thanks--

Tim Miller
tkansas@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu


Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 15:08:59 -0600
From: Jim Bones 
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: Ecosystem rehabilitation following fires with pelletized ecosystem
seed balls.

Please see the Web Site:

           LIGHT WRITINGS (http://www.rt66.com/~jimbones)

Look there for the

Forest Fire Action Alert, Agriculture Section with Masanobu Fukuoka -
Natural Farming & Seed Balls and for other information on rehabilitating
the burned ecosystems of Northern New Mexico.

The Forest Service and BLM are both interested in this project. We need
community volunteers (children to senior citizens) to make and broadcast
seed balls.  Contact Roberta Salazar at the BLM office in Taos New
Mexico (505) 758-8852 for the time and place of the community seed ball
event scheduled in mid-June, 1996 for the Rio Grande Riparian Habitat
Project near Pilar, New Mexico.

Please let me know if it would be possible to establish some kind of
INTRANET of web servers in New Mexico and Colorado with a collective
Alert Page to share this information within our Electronic Bioregion.
With the summer just warming up and no rain in sight, this information
may come in handier than we all might wish to think.

Please let me know how I might be able to help.

Sincerely,

Jim Bones
Photographer/Educator


Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 05:48:40 -0800
From: Louis Jaffe 
To: lguerin@laplaza.org
Cc: patfinn@laplaza.org
Subject: Thanks for fire photos

Many thanks from a former Taos resident and Lama retreatant
living in San Francisco.  I heard of the fire from NM
friends, but your images bring it home.

One aspect that has received little attention in the
coverage so far is the international importance of the 85%
destroyed Lama Foundation.  Thousands of people from all
over the world have attended meetings and retreats there.

Perhaps the fate of Lama Foundation deserves a web page of
its own.  Having done four week-long retreats there over the
last few years-- and having visited the place as early as
1968-- I'd be very interested to see online any additional
photos you might have of the damage within Lama Foundation.
I know the "Lama Beans" are planning a fund-raising appeal
to rebuild, and Web visibility certainly wouldn't hurt.

Thanks again--

Louis Jaffe


Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 15:14:40 -0700
From: Carol Miller 
To: Terry Wolff 
Subject: Re: Llama Fire Meeting

Terry -- Thank you for the outstanding report on the Llama meeting.  For not
being a reporter, you've done an excellent job of capsulizing all the info.
discussed at the meeting.  I'm back home now.  All is well, but we are on
alert here in Arizona for fire hazard as well.  I'll be cancelling any plans
for leisure travel this month due to by responsibilities here and to
national headquarters.  I'll plan on returning to Taos as a visitor sometime
soon.  I've been talking it up to anyone who asks.  Thanks for doing such a
great job with your Web site and for recognizing the work of Red Cross.
Take care.


Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 12:27:34 +0000
From: /S=J.STONE/OU1=R04A@mhs-fswa.attmail.com
To: bhau@laplaza.org, amyh@laplaza.org,
    pfinn@laplaza.org
Subject: net difference

I am dropping you all a line to let you know the pathway back
to me through the net.  Above that, I wanted to express my sincere
thanks for the opportunity to work with you in Taos last week.  Feel
free to pass out my address at the conference!  Telephone at home is
(801) 399-1971.  Work is 801.625.5517.  My sincere regrets at not
being able to take advantage of your scholorship.
   I believe the synergy and win-win situation that developed last
week was wonderful, and I see no excuse for not continuing that type
of service to others.  The fire information officers have good
information, maps, and sources.  The American Red Cross has
information, and people have the need to let their neighbors know
they are okay.  To have all that information, plus some, in one place
makes the information superhighway useful to a multitude.  Glad to be
a part of this!  I'm STILL very excited about it, and share it with
everyone who will stand still long enough, or that I can keep up with.
Nothing like a "spark in the right tinder!"


Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 10:46:43 +0800
From: ENROB@cityu.edu.hk
To: wolff@laplaza.org
Subject: Re: Setting up an Internet account in advance
Terry,

Please give Thom my sympathy.  Hope he's not in too much discomfort.

Glad the fire has been contained.  You folks at LaPlaza sure did a great
job of coverage.  Your reporting meant a lot to me way out here.  You
might not have reckoned the telecommunity would reach all the way to
southeast Asia, but that long reach and the timely information you all
shared is a real example of what telecommunity really means.  Well done!

I'll wait until I hear from you on the account.  Take care and . . .

Cheers,

Rob
Design Angel Fire . . . 46 days from home


From alf-o@laplaza.org Mon May 13 15:18:11 1996
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 14:58:00 -0600 (MDT)
From: "Alf O. Watt" 
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: list of needs from residents of La Lama

For Immediate Release
Resources Needed by La Lama Residents, as of 5/14/96

Need 	When we need it
Details

Money	Immediate
La Lama community
La Lama Community Reconstruction Fund @ Centinel Bank
Lama Foundation
Lama Foundation Fire Relief Fund @ First State Bank

Help with cleanup	Immediate	Need to clean the inside of their 
house, now.

Large water tanks	Immediate	Need storage for water

Temporary Lighting	Immediate	Lights for inside of house while 
power is out.

Meals	Immediate	No cooking facilities, need prepared food.

Help with cleanup	Immediate	Need help with cleanup of 
property and house.

Child Care	Immediate	Need someone to watch the kid while they rebuild.

Toiletries	Immediate	Including; Soap, Toothbrushes, Sun 
Screen, Sanitary Napkins, Wash Basin and Wash Stands.

Work Equipment	Immediate	Including; Gloves, Respirators, Goggles, 
Hay Forks, Shovels, Rakes, Ax Handles, Post Hole Diggers, Tarps, Axes, 
Fence Posts, Extension Cords, Fencing Materials, Flat Shovels, etc.

Bicycle	1-2 Days	Mountain Bike for William Fox, just one please.

Mobile Kitchen	soon	Mobile Kitchen for cooking out in the open.

Water Transport, Storage	Soon	Large volume (thousands of 
gallons) to preserve trees & surrounding areas.

Mobile Homes	Soon	Many residents need on-sight shelter so they can rebuild.

Dumpsters	Soon	Removal of rubbish from property.

Generators	Soon	Electricity for lights and tools.

Water (potable and utility)	Soon	For construction and drinking, 
watering trees etc.

Security Personal	Ongoing	Need the area patrolled to keep looters out.

Hoses	Ongoing	Necessary for moving water around.

Office Supplies	Ongoing	Paper, pens, etc. for the Neighborhood Association.

A Computer	Ongoing
We are using a borrowed computer now, and will need a permanent place for 
our information.

Any questions can be addressed to the La Lama Neighborhood Association
Phone	505 586 1020
Voice Mail	505 751 7872
This file is tabbed, you may want to use a text editor to view it


Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 11:31:26 -0600
From: "M. Emily" 
To: fire@laplaza.org

        Dear Lama Beings- you are all in my thoughts, prayers, and heart.  I
hope that  you are ok.  I feel such deep sorrow about the fires and our loss.  
        I live in western Montana now and I understand that a number of the
firefighters are from here.  They are well trained and dedicated I
understand. The story about Terry Klein made me angry and sad.  I trust that
has passed.  I had hoped to visit you all this summer at the women's
gathering in early August.  But this is not to be.  Please know that "and I
am that too..."
        Namaste, Emily Miller
Emily in Missoula--


Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 00:22:40 -0400
From: CHRISEL911@aol.com
To: feedback@laplaza.org
Subject: hondo fire

our names are chris and annouk ellis and we just visited taos from may 4th to
8th and witnessed the hondo fire from close range. we actually saw the fire
from its first half hour  and also watched as so many of your citizens
worried about friends affected by the blaze.  i just wanted to say annouk and
i were most touched and impressed at how the taos community drew together to
help distressed inhabitants of lama and environs.

if other communities throughout the us showed a fraction of the cohesiveness
and general love and concern for their brethren like i saw this week in taos,
then the world would be a much better place.

and for all that i am very glad i am a landowner in taos since four years,
and can't wait to find a way to make a living down there so my family can
move to new mexico.

keep up the love and general concern you all have for each other.

sincerely, chris ellis (chrisel911@aol.com)


Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 12:58:13 -0400
From: NOJAVA@aol.com
To: fire@laplaza.org
Cc: NOJAVA@aol.com
Subject: Summer Community Camp and Summer Staff Positions

     Hello.  First,  I'd like to wish everyone involved in the Honda fire
added strength and courage in the aftermath of such a difficult event.  Given
what has happened, I am wondering what Lama is considering for this summer.
I, like many other people I'm sure, was planning on being at Lama on the 19th
for the first day of community camp.
     I would greatly appreciate any information regarding this summer's plans
regardless of how tentative such info might be at this point. I can well
appreciate what an incredibly disorganized and busy time this must be for you
all.
     Will Lama be rebuilt? Will volunteers/summer staffers be needed and/or
wanted in the near future as part of that rebuilding process?  If so, when
might be an appropriate date/time to get there to help? I gather you get the
gist of what I'm interested in at this time.  Wishing you all the very best.
Thanks for your assistance.

Peace,
Lenny Kagan,
Toronto Canada (currently in New Orleans, LA)

P.S.  I am a friend of Lama resident 'Andy (last name temporarily elusive?)',
how is he?..............


Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 07:22:43 -0600
From: John Liebson 
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: Your Hondo Fire pages

Congratulations on a nicely done set of pages. Yesterday, on
bit.listservice.fire-l, someone posted a somewhat outdated report on the
fire from Reuters news service; I took the liberty of posting your
address as a better source of info.

In case you might wonder how I know a bit about all this, I invite you
to take a look at , the site I created and
maintain. I'm a now retired volunteer firefighter with about 30 years of
experience, having founded two volunteer departments, who continues to
do training, etc.


Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 22:19:04 -0700
From: Eric Bear Albrecht 
Reply to: anyone@laplaza.org
To: anyone@laplaza.org
Cc: jfambro@laplaza.org
Subject: Corp Commish hearing, fireworks ban

I had a conversation with Fire Marshal Jim Fambro this evening, and
I'd like to publicize the hearing that will be held on Friday morning,
at 9:30, at the Capitol Building in Santa Fe, conducted by the Corporation
Commission, the State Fire Marshal's office and the Governor's office.
As far as pressure groups go, it's us versus the fireworks industry.

Our Fire Marshal Jim Fambro has been fighting this issue for years.
Now that we've all seen how easily thousands of acres can go up, we ought
to let them know that we don't want to do boogie this again in July.

Jim says he would like to see either a complete ban on aerial devices,
or local option, depending on conditions -- for instance if it's wet
in one part of the state, a statewide ban is not needed.  (Personally
I think a complete ban on sale of aerial devices would be much better.)
Jim is _not_ in favor of stopping all public displays; having them is
actually a good fire prevention strategy.

Send your comments, make phone calls, etc, to the County Commission,
State Rep Bobby Gonzales , Senator Carlos Cisneros ,
the Governor's Office, and the Corporation Commission.

posted by ebear for Taos Environmental Association


      Eric Bear Albrecht     ebear@presto.com     W5VZB      Box 6040
                         ebear@laplaza.org
                 Presto Computers, Inc / Taos Typesetting
      505-758-0579           fax 505-758-5079          Taos, NM 87571

            **      The wonderful thing about standards      **
            **   is that there are so many to choose from.   **
--
ebear (Eric Bear Albrecht) -- anyone


Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 16:52:35 -0600 (MDT)
From: "Alf O. Watt" 
To: Terry Wolff 
Cc: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: Fire info

        La Lama Communications committie info:

        Emergency Info Number (La Lama Residents only please) 505.586.1020

        Voice Mail (unitl Monday 13may1996) 505.751.7872

        Please send any E-Mail to this group.


Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 11:52:11 -0400
From: RCunnin540@aol.com
To: feedback@laplaza.org
Subject: Hondo Fire

My heart goes out to the victims of the fire.  Losing property and belongings
can be devastating.  Luckily, no lives were lost...that's the main thing!
 Lives cannot be replaced.
It is very unfortunate that one's stupidity can cause so much damage and
grief.
All victims, firefighters, volunteers, and alleged fire starter, are in my
prayers!

Sincerely,
Richard Cunningham (former resident of Taos)
Santa Fe, NM
AOL address: RCunnin540


Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 12:51:48 -0700
From: "William J. Jamison" <104056.2526@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: oops! (RE:)

That should have been  "If any of you value property or money over 
LIFE, you are dead wrong."


Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 15:44:48 -0400
From: Dccolin@aol.com
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: Mel Etterick

You can reach Mel At 758-9033 in Taos. 
                      
                                        DC

Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 19:26:48 -0700
From: "William J. Jamison" <104056.2526@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: lashing addendum (RE:)

Thank you Bitsy,

I know it is a bitter pill to swallow, and I am not unaware of the
tragedies experienced by the people, forest and ecology involved,
but I hope what I said and the disaster itself was a wake-up call to
anyone who has ears to listen and eyes to see. I could be way off
base, but I don't think so. If any of you value property over money,
you are dead wrong. All of you emerged physically unscathed, thamk
God for that. Pick up and move forward, learn from your mistakes,
you are all intelligent beings, but you need to listen to your
hearts and your creator. There is only one and pardon my opinion but
I don't think you've been listening, not from what I have
experienced in your company.
Inasmuch as my heart goes out to you, I pray for your souls, mercy,
I am not only concerned so much for any future disasters you may
call down upon yourselves, but that which you may bring down upon
others, mostly. You have influenced many, you have that ability, you
have done much damage. It is your responsibility to make amends.
It's up to you.
I value all of your friendships, although you hardly know me and
probably don't remember me or my family (thanks for the kitty Rollo,
Michael I know you know who this is and we will meet again), I love
the area and people in your area, and hope to return permanently
someday when I can afford it.
I'm sure some of you are enraged at my words and your anger is
received  and  understood. Please understand that if I did not care
so much about you I would not be nearly so harsh.

Shalom,

Jami


Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 18:29:08 -0500
From: tushar montano 
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: to rollo and beverly silver

dear rollo,

i don't know if you remember me, but you have been very much in my
thoughts and meditations since the onslaught of the fire.

about ten years ago you and i had great fun creating some of the first
and best mandelbrot images.

since then i have travelled far but have returned to my beloved new
mexico only recently.  please respond to this message when you can, as
i would love to reconnect with you.  i know that you are alive as i
saw you on the new broadcast on abc only a few minutes ago.

you look great and lama will not only survive but grow.

all of my friendship,

tushar.


Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 20:00:36 -0800
From: Susan R. Fison 
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: Information on Your Web Site

I am a member of the Municipality of Anchorage's Website Coordination
Team.  We hope to have our Website up this summer.  I am also involved
in Emergency Planning for Anchorage.  We have frequently used your
Website as one of our favorite examples of how to do it right.  We were
very interested to hear about the site you put up in response to the
fire emergency.  A couple of questions:  How many MB of info are on your
basic Website?  How long it it take to put together the emergency site.
Was any advance planning done for this or did you just do it on the fly?
 Please write me at fisons@alaska.net or call me at (907)343-4254.
Thanks, Susan Fison, Manager of Research & Teachnical Services,
Community Planning Department.

Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 19:44:49 -0600 (MDT)
From: Alan Jones 
To: Denise Blanchette 
Subject: Job well done.


Denise,

I had a chance to view the Hondo Fire home page last nite.  I would like
to thank all who made this home page possible.

With all of the mis-information that the press seems to put out it is
good to have accurate information available.

Again, please pass my thanks on to all involved.


Alan Jones
sage@laplaza.org

Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 11:54:43 -0600 (MDT)
From: Denise Blanchette 
To: Mark Nettleton 
Subject: Re: Deer Mesa / Michael Duncan ranch (fwd)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 11:15:17 -0600 (MDT)
From: Tony Chiodo 
To: Denise Blanchette 
Subject: Re: Deer Mesa / Michael Duncan ranch (fwd)

Deer Mesa wasn't touched by the fire.

Tony Chiodo

Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 11:02:47 -0600 (MDT)
From: Tony Chiodo 
To: anyone@laplaza.org
Cc: anyone@laplaza.org, fire@laplaza.org
Subject: Re: Looking for Rollo Silver

On Tue, 7 May 1996, Scott Thayer wrote:

> I would appreciate info on the whereabouts of Rollo Silver. Please e-mail 
> me or call at 758-4908.
> 
> Scott Alan Thayer
> anubis@laplaza.org
> 
> 
> --
> Scott Thayer  -- anyone
> 
Rollo Silver goes to the Northside Spa pretty often. You could leave a 
message there for him.

Tony Chiodo


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Had to think twice before posting this one. But in the spirit of openness, here it is.
Real helpful Jami...

bitsy
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Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 23:52:12 -0700
From: "William J. Jamison" <104056.2526@COMPUSERVE.COM>
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: vengeance is mine sayeth the lord

The next time somebody shows up at your door with a wife and 3 small 
children on their last leg asking for succor making you'll think 
twice about it yuppie scum. Maybe not, you need to have a soul for 
that kind of thing. Having lived at Morningstar in the late 60's for 
4 years and experiencing the worst and best of communal living I 
have always disdained the Lama principals. Get back to Christ before 
it is too late. He is not just another one of your enlightened 
masters (do you hear me Michael, Gail, Rollo?) for you to pick and 
choose amongst for doctrines that are pleasant to your ears. I know 
you yourselves like to be referred to as masters. Wake up before it 
is too late. (Smak!)

Jami


Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 17:46:02 +0000
From: Matt Flinchum 
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: Red River Fire news...to Japan!

Thank you for keeping me updated with information.  I have a vacation 
home in Red River, and this is the only way I can get information on 
the status of the fire.  I am currently living in Kobe, Japan and have 
direct internet access for information.  I will be checking in with 
you throughout the crisis for further development.  I appreciate the 
work your team is doing to provide up-to-date news.

Thank you,
                                                                               
Matt Flinchum

Canadian Academy


Date: Thu, 09 May 96 00:48:17 -0700
From: bbarnet 
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: to anyone from lama foundation

Hello Beloveds,

 My thoughts and prayers have been with you since I first heard about the 
fire and now I am wondering if it would be helpful for me to be with you
in person. I am in Minnesota until Monday May 13th when I fly back to 
Oakland. From there I am willing to drive directly to NM if I can be of 
assistance. If anyone has access to the net you can email me at 
bbarnet@pioneerplanet.infi.net or call me at (612)699-1749. I'm also 
interested in news of how everyone is doing and plans for this summer.

                       Peace and Love to you all,

                             Jeff Shapiro


Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 17:02:54 -0600 (MDT)
From: Erica Bay 
Reply to: anyone@laplaza.org
To: anyone@laplaza.org
Subject: volunteer

I am trying to locate a volunteer i meet at the armory on tuesday
The best I can do information wise is that her first name is Janine, she 
has a 17 yr. old daughter and she use to do catering work. If you think 
you may know this person, please contact me. Thank you
Erica Bag
751-4226
--
Erica Bay  -- anyone


Date: Wed, 08 May 96 18:26:44 EDT
From: Gail Murray 
To: Rollo & Beverly 
Subject: Am with you

Rollo & Bev,
  Am with you as best I can be - in heart and mind - as I learn this
news via the web.  I am knowing that Love is everywhere, even in the
circumstances one would least want to be, Love is there.  'Even there
shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.' (Psalm 139)
  Will you like to come East and stay a while with us?  Love, Gail


Date: Wed, 08 May 96 15:46:17 -700
From: Kathryn Wadsworth <kavika@roadrunner.com
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: Ben Haggard Whereabouts

If anyone knows where Ben Haggard is
(he is from Lama Foundation), 
please let me know (Email: kavika@roadrunner.com or 505-466-6509)
or have him call KB and David (collect) at 505 466 - 6509.
I have camping gear etc. and don't know how to get it to him.
 Thanks so much. 

Kathryn Wadsworth


Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 15:21:06 +0100
From: Freya Reeves 
To: fire@laplaza.org
Cc: fereeve@mhtc.net
Subject: Richard Schiffman and Gayle of Mountain Light B&B

Does anyone know if Richard, whose house is in the wood near the Lama
Foundation and Gayle and the others at Mountain Light (near Arroyo
Hondo) are all right? Please advise when can. Prayers with all.

Freya Reeves
608/987-2533


Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 09:56:13 -0700
From: Dhammajorn 
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: Deer Mesa / Michael Duncan ranch

I am requesting info re: Deer Mesa came thru un-scathed????
Phone calls are not returned, and family here is worried.
Deer Mesa is located above Arroyo Hondo ,on the south edge
of Hondo Canyon.
Any info will be appreciated
Thanks
Robert


Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 15:40:15 -0400
From: ken knoerr 
Reply to: anyone@laplaza.org
To: fire@laplaza.org
Cc: anyone@laplaza.org
Subject: William E. (Bill) Reifsnyder

I am trying to get information on William E. (Bill) Reifsnyder and his two
daughters who between them had three homes just south of Lama.  Were they
burned out?  How can I get in touch with them?  Bill doesn't answer his
phone.  Please send information to my email address below.

Ken Knoerr
School of the Environment
Duke University
Box 90328
Durham, NC 27708-0328

Phone:  919-613-8030
Fax:    919-684-8741
Email:  dknoer@acpub.duke.edu


Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 13:31:26 -0600 (MDT)
From: Denise Blanchette 
Reply to: anyone@laplaza.org
To: Mark Nettleton 
Cc: anyone@laplaza.org
Subject: LAMA NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING

5/8/96
1:35

The Lama Neighborhood Association has announced that there will be a
meeting to discuss possible state and federal sources of funding for the
displaced families of Lama.

The meeting will be held Thursday, May 9th, at 7:00pm at the Red River
Fish Hatchery.

--
Denise Blanchette  -- anyone


Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 13:23:43 -0600 (MDT)
From: Cynthia M. Gonzales 
To: Mark Nettleton 
Subject: More fire information

Sarah Morgan 776-5521 -- To help fire victims

Bank Account has been set up for the LAMA Foundation for financial
donations for emergency needs and long range rebuilding.

LAMA Foundation Fire Relief Fund
C/O First State Bank
P.O. 5394
Santa Fe, NM  87502

There is a branch in Taos that is set up to receive donations.

Lama has a voice mail number which will be clearing house for any donated
items --
751-7866

They can use anything from beds, mattresses, bedding, to office supplies,
computers, office equipment etc.


Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 12:23:13 -0600 (MDT)
From: Denise Blanchette 
Reply to: anyone@laplaza.org
To: Mark Nettleton 
Cc: anyone@laplaza.org
Subject: Gov. Johnson Comment

5/8/96

12:15 pm

As aired on KTAO radio, Betsy Model reported that Governor Gary Johnson
attended the Red River Citizens meeting with other state, local & federal  
representatives.

The Governor was asked about the status of receiving federal aid for 
those displaced by the fire. He still has not received a commitment 
concerning federal aid for the displaced families.  He stated that 
federal assistance in the way of fire fighting has been in effect and 
that funds for replanting and reclaimation of the area should be 
available.  He commented that the State of New Mexico is open to what 
they might do as a state to aid the victims.  Gov. Johnson is considering 
banning fireworks over the July 4th holiday due to the extremely dry 
conditions.
--
Denise Blanchette  -- anyone


Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 12:00:59 -0600 (MDT)
From: Denise Blanchette 
To: Mark Nettleton 
Cc: anyone@laplaza.org
Subject: BAKE SALE FOR FIRE VICTIMS

12:00 Noon   5/8/96

KTAO radio has announced that students from Taos Junior High School will 
be holding a bake sale to benefit the Hondo Fire Victims at Walmart, 
Today, May 8th, from 3:30 - 6:30pm.  Stop by and purchase some goodies 
from our young people to help out the fire victims.


Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 11:15:45 -0400
From: JATLEE@aol.com
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: help

If you can contact the potter that was burned out in Lama I have two potter's
wheels she could have if she wants to rebuild her studio.  Might be able to
help with some other materials, depending what she needs.

John Atlee
Albuquerque
jatlee@aol.com


Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 10:06:55 -0600 (MDT)
From: Bill Reed 
Reply to: anyone@laplaza.org
To: fire@laplaza.org
Cc: anyone@laplaza.org
Subject: Bob Aldo & Peggy Ness

Does anyone have information on the whereabouts of Bob Aldo & Peggy Ness?
If so contact me and/or Rick Dove .

Thanks...
MrB:
--
Bill Reed  -- anyone


Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 19:37:43 -0700
From: Don Means 
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: Aireal

Dear Whomever,

Are there any aerial photos available for posting?  I'm particularly
interested in the old Lama road on the south ridge (2.25 miles out from San
Cristobal) of Garapata Canyon where I have (or had) 10 acres and a half
built earthship.

Any other specific information about that area or the homes in it will be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks for all you work in providing information to all parties.  A great
service!

Kind regards,
Don Means


Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 09:13:43 -0600 (MDT)
From: Elizabeth Manny 
Reply to: anyone@laplaza.org
To: members@laplaza.org, anyone@laplaza.org
Subject: Locating Sue Goldberg & Ray (fwd)

I am trying to find Sue Goldberg and her husband Ray (different last name)
who were burned
out in Lama.  If anyone knows where they are staying, please let me know
either via email or at my phone number 751-1217.

Thank you.

Elizabeth Manny
em@laplaza.org


Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 22:52:33 -0700
From: Eric Bear Albrecht 
Reply to: anyone@laplaza.org
To: anyone@laplaza.org
Subject: Re: Looking for Rollo Silver

>I would appreciate info on the whereabouts of Rollo Silver. Please e-mail
>me or call at 758-4908.

Rollo is OK; saw him this afternoon.  Try 776-2554.

      Eric Bear Albrecht     ebear@presto.com     W5VZB      Box 6040
                         ebear@laplaza.org
                 Presto Computers, Inc / Taos Typesetting
      505-758-0579           fax 505-758-5079          Taos, NM 87571

            **      The wonderful thing about standards      **
            **   is that there are so many to choose from.   **


Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 18:06:26 -0600 (MDT)
From: Scott Thayer 
Reply to: anyone@laplaza.org
To: anyone@laplaza.org
Cc: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: Looking for Rollo Silver

I would appreciate info on the whereabouts of Rollo Silver. Please e-mail
me or call at 758-4908.

Scott Alan Thayer
anubis@laplaza.org

--
Scott Thayer  -- anyone


Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 15:16:48 -0600 (MDT)
From: Roberta deMasellis 
Reply to: anyone@laplaza.org
To: anyone@laplaza.org
Subject: Re: Hondo Fire (fwd)

Also, if people want to get information to someone through email, I will 
be glad to assist.  Those who don't have computers or addresses, I'll 
help you get information to friends and family if you would like.  

--
Roberta deMasellis  -- anyone


Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 17:28:24 -0600 (MDT)
From: Denise Blanchette 
To: Mark Nettleton 
Cc: anyone@laplaza.org
Subject: FIRE ASSISTANCE

The CASDV (Community Against Sexual & Domestic Violence Feed Bin has 
announced that they will be open Wednesday May 8 thru 
Saturday May 11th from 9:00am till 4:00pm for those who need clothing.
There is lots of stuff available.  

For further information contact CASDV at 758-8082


Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 17:19:55 -0600 (MDT)
From: Denise Blanchette 
To: Mark Nettleton 
Cc: anyone@laplaza.org
Subject: TRUJILLO/DENVER

The American Red Cross has informed us that Antonio Trujillo and Buchie 
Denver are okay and are in the Lama/Taos Area.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 15:14:17 -0600 (MDT)
From: Roberta deMasellis 
To: anyone@laplaza.org
Cc: la-plaza-staff@laplaza.org
Subject: Re: Fire and Tom

Folks, please note, the Armory could use some more bodies, I just came 
from baggging potatoes and unloading trucks, new crews drift in and out 
in perfect synchrony, but if you find yourself a little time this 
afternoon and early eve, it would be great.  People who need assistance 
are also arriving, and it's good to help them out as they are pretty 
distraught and need a little guidance to collect their things.
  See you there!
--
Roberta deMasellis  -- la-plaza-staff


Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 13:29:21 -0600
From: Sheila Cooper 
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: Pasture for Livestock

I have about five acres of fenced pasture which I would be pleased for
evacuees with livestock to use as long as necessary.  It has access to
water.  I am located in Alcalde, about 5 miles north of Espanola.

If this pasture is needed, I can be reached at 852-2034.

GOOD LUCK!


Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 14:11:34 -0600 (MDT)
From: JCMcL 
Reply to: anyone@laplaza.org
To: anyone@laplaza.org
Subject: Re: Harry Miller, architect, and family


If anyone out there has any information on architect Harry Miller and his 
wife Yelena and daughters Eladia and Renatta, please let us know.  Harry 
does work from his house in Lama for Sturtcman architects; the family 
lives at the Broken Arrow Ranch.  

We have housing for them, if they need it.  

Thanks!
--
JCMcL  -- anyone

5/7 1:45pm
Melvin Etterick or anyone who knows where Melvin is please call Shelly Bahr at the Red Cross (505) 758-1405 or (505) 751-7580


People have been calling New Buffalo (505) 776-2015 and the Red Cross (505) 758-1405 with questions as to the whereabouts of Lama residents. Please let them know where you are.



> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 08:32:33 -0600
> From: Claudette E. Sutton 
> To: fire@laplaza.org
> Subject: Hondo Fire
> 
> Is there any place in Santa Fe for dropping off supplies?
> 

Santa Fe Red Cross
1570 Pacheco E 12
Santa Fe

Note:   Clothing is NO longer needed!


Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 07:46:30 -0600
Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 10:02:23 -0400
From: AgatesNo1@aol.com
To: fire@laplaza.org
Subject: antonio trujillo/buchie denver

I am down here in santa fe and we are trying to locate the above 
mentioned
residents of lama.
They could call Murdoch Finlayson 505 9831708.
We haven't heard from them since the fire started.
Whomever recieves please be so kind as to reply if contact is made or not

Many thanks from,
Mr. Finlayson